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	<title>Comments on: 1998 Honda Accord &#8211; Intermittent Horn</title>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Randy,

I seem to have the same issue with my honda accord 98. We changed the clock spring and now they recommend that we change the steering shaft at $1000. I would like to hear of the alternate grounding method you have using the unused wire. Any other help would be appreciated too.

Gosh I thought I was the only one facing this problem !

Thanks,

Sam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Randy,</p>
<p>I seem to have the same issue with my honda accord 98. We changed the clock spring and now they recommend that we change the steering shaft at $1000. I would like to hear of the alternate grounding method you have using the unused wire. Any other help would be appreciated too.</p>
<p>Gosh I thought I was the only one facing this problem !</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Sam</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Hines</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Hines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy, experiencing same intermittent horn problem with my 1998 Honda Accord.  I would appreciate the details.   Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy, experiencing same intermittent horn problem with my 1998 Honda Accord.  I would appreciate the details.   Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Ruff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Randy - I too, have a horn problem with my 92 Accord.  All fuses are fine, and horns have been removed and tested.  I see in the Haynes (90-93) manual wiring diagram that a horn relay exist, but it does not tell the location and checking under hood fuse block and interior fuse block, i still cannot find any horn relay.  Can you help with my situation?
Many thanks,
Ruff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Randy &#8211; I too, have a horn problem with my 92 Accord.  All fuses are fine, and horns have been removed and tested.  I see in the Haynes (90-93) manual wiring diagram that a horn relay exist, but it does not tell the location and checking under hood fuse block and interior fuse block, i still cannot find any horn relay.  Can you help with my situation?<br />
Many thanks,<br />
Ruff</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 17:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Randy,

This is very good information. My Accord 92 has the intermittent horn problem too. I have spent a lot of time trouble-shooting. It turned out to be the ground problem just like yours. But I&#039;m not as lucky because the cable reel on 92 accord is different than 98, there is no empty slot. 

thanks for the posting.

Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Randy,</p>
<p>This is very good information. My Accord 92 has the intermittent horn problem too. I have spent a lot of time trouble-shooting. It turned out to be the ground problem just like yours. But I&#8217;m not as lucky because the cable reel on 92 accord is different than 98, there is no empty slot. </p>
<p>thanks for the posting.</p>
<p>Bill</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Orv,

Assuming it&#039;s not the horn relay, you probably have the same issue: the horn&#039;s ground comes through the steering column.

Either you&#039;ll have to pony up the cash to get a new one, or find another way of grounding your steering wheel. I used an &quot;empty&quot; signal line in the cable reel (aka &quot;clock spring&quot;) to route the ground through, but I think that &quot;empty&quot; spot was meant to isolate the airbag signals from the horn and cruise buttons. So there may be a (slight) risk that the airbag could accidentally deploy (or not!) from this modification, so it&#039;s definitely at your own risk!

With the steering wheel covers off, bolts out, and airbag assembly out, you should be looking at the clock spring/cable reel. There&#039;s a connector-looking thing on the front, with wire coming out of each slot, except one. That&#039;s the one I used to ground my wheel. I jammed a wire in there, and the other end bolted to the wheel. Then, on the back side of the clock spring, there&#039;s a connector where the cruise and horn signals leave from the wheel. One of the pins on that connector has continuity to the empty slot I jammed the wire in. I ran *that* wire to a good ground, and that resolved my problem completely!

Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Orv,</p>
<p>Assuming it&#8217;s not the horn relay, you probably have the same issue: the horn&#8217;s ground comes through the steering column.</p>
<p>Either you&#8217;ll have to pony up the cash to get a new one, or find another way of grounding your steering wheel. I used an &#8220;empty&#8221; signal line in the cable reel (aka &#8220;clock spring&#8221;) to route the ground through, but I think that &#8220;empty&#8221; spot was meant to isolate the airbag signals from the horn and cruise buttons. So there may be a (slight) risk that the airbag could accidentally deploy (or not!) from this modification, so it&#8217;s definitely at your own risk!</p>
<p>With the steering wheel covers off, bolts out, and airbag assembly out, you should be looking at the clock spring/cable reel. There&#8217;s a connector-looking thing on the front, with wire coming out of each slot, except one. That&#8217;s the one I used to ground my wheel. I jammed a wire in there, and the other end bolted to the wheel. Then, on the back side of the clock spring, there&#8217;s a connector where the cruise and horn signals leave from the wheel. One of the pins on that connector has continuity to the empty slot I jammed the wire in. I ran *that* wire to a good ground, and that resolved my problem completely!</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Orville</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 02:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Found your articles and others very interesting.

I have the exact same problem, wth some exceptions:

1) Horn works very well when the out side temp drops be 20C,  (heat related)

2) Replaced  wiring harness, problem still there.

3) Once suggestion made was that inside the horn cover is a pencil like rod that  all it needed is lubercating, as it was dirty, then the horn worked well.

Honda would not follow it up, because the horn was working at that time.  Go figure !

This idea was not pursued by the Honda Service ????

4) This afternoon, I contacted the local Honda Dealership, and their answer was that the entire steering column has to be replaced. Over $1,000.00 ticket.

The problem I am having having is directly related to outside termperature.  It is an intermitent problem.

Would appreciate your comments,

Cheers,

Orv.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found your articles and others very interesting.</p>
<p>I have the exact same problem, wth some exceptions:</p>
<p>1) Horn works very well when the out side temp drops be 20C,  (heat related)</p>
<p>2) Replaced  wiring harness, problem still there.</p>
<p>3) Once suggestion made was that inside the horn cover is a pencil like rod that  all it needed is lubercating, as it was dirty, then the horn worked well.</p>
<p>Honda would not follow it up, because the horn was working at that time.  Go figure !</p>
<p>This idea was not pursued by the Honda Service ????</p>
<p>4) This afternoon, I contacted the local Honda Dealership, and their answer was that the entire steering column has to be replaced. Over $1,000.00 ticket.</p>
<p>The problem I am having having is directly related to outside termperature.  It is an intermitent problem.</p>
<p>Would appreciate your comments,</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Orv.</p>
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